Prima Secundae
249. Summa I-II q.102 a.5 (replies 2–4): The Passover meal, the sacraments of the old and new law, and ritual uncleanness
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[0:00] Of the Father and the Son, Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank you, God. Thank you, guardian angels. Thank you, Thomas Aquinas. God, our enlightenment. Guardian angels, strengthen the lights of our minds, or illumine images, and arouse us to consider more correctly. Saint Thomas Aquinas, angelic doctor,

[0:28] and help us to understand what you have written. Okay, we come to the Secundum here. in question 102, article five, to the second should be said that the now to the literal reason. I don't like that translation, but how do they translate in English? Literal reason. Yeah, yeah.

[0:56] Let's see the reason from the letter, but reason from the thing, right? So anyway, the lettered reason for the Paschal banquet, huh, was in commemoration of the benefit by which God led them out of what Egypt, huh?

[1:22] Whence, through the celebration of this convivium, huh, this feast, the one professes themselves right that pertains to those people whom God what Took out from Egypt, right? Now, when they were freed from Egypt, it was commanded them, right, that they what sprinkle sprinkle, the blood of the lamb,

[2:02] and the lintel and the doorposts of the houses as were protesting themselves to recede from the rites of Egypt, right? Who worshipped the ram?

[2:16] Whence they were liberated through the aspersion of the blood of the lamb, or the what anointing was it on the post of the doors from the periculum, the danger of being extermination, right, which was threatening the what Imminent upon the Egyptians. Now, in that exit of them from Egypt, there are two things, huh? One of what I guess hurrying, right, to going out,

[2:52] for the Egyptians impelled them that they what to go out swiftly, as is had in Exodus twelve, huh? And it was eminent a danger to those who did not go out quickly, right, with the multitude, lest they remain to be killed by the what? Yeah. Now the hurrying was designated in two ways. In one way, to those things which they what ate, for the precept was that what ate unleavened bread, huh?

[3:31] In this, in the sign of this, that they were not able to ferment, huh? Being forced to go out from what Egypt, the Egyptians, yeah, and that they what ate that which had been burnt up by the fire, um, that they would more what swiftly prepare, and that the mouth would not be what.

[3:59] Is that threatened or something? What's the word? Commanded. What did they say? They could not break a bone thereof, because their haste there was not time to break. Oh, not time to break. Okay.

[4:16] Another way regards the way of eating, huh? For they said that you should have your loins cut up and your shoes on your feet, right, and holding your sticks, huh, for walking in your hands, and that you eat swiftly, right, huh?

[4:40] Which manifestly designates men existing in the promptitude of a journey, right? And to which also pertains what is commanded them, that in one what eat, nor would you carry your fleshes outside, because on account of their being in a hurry, they were not open to what send things out. xenia They could not on account of their haste send any gifts of it. Okay.

[5:30] And the bitterness of what they had undergone in Egypt signified through the the. That's the Latin word for lettuce, I think. Yeah, lactus. Bitter herbs, as you translate, yeah. Wild lettuce, wild lettuce. Bitter herbs. Yeah. Okay.

[5:54] Parsley. So that's the end of the literal, or so-called the lettered reason, right? Reason of the letter. But the figurative reason is clear, right? Because through the immolation of the Paschal Lamb is signified the immolation of what? Christ. According to that of one Corinthians five, our Paschal offered up is what? Christ. How do they translate Imolatus? Sacrificed. Sacrificed, okay. The blood of the Lamb liberating one from the exterminator, being spread on the post transit of the houses signifies the faith of the passion of Christ, or faith in the passion of Christ in the heart and the mouth of the faithful, through which we are liberated from what?

[6:55] Sin and death. So the litany, right? The blood, right? Christ, that's yeah, precious blood. Okay. Through which we are liberated from sin and from death. According to that of the first epistle of Peter, chapter one, we are redeemed by the precious blood of the immaculate Lamb.

[7:34] The ate, however, it's what flesh to signify the eating of the body of Christ, sacrament. And the what? It was fire to signify the passion, or to signify the charity of Christ. Huh? It was sign. They ate it with unleavened bread to signifying the pure way of life, I suppose, of the faithful taking the body of Christ. Huh? According to that of the first epistle of the Corinthians, let us rejoice in the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

[8:17] Huh? Like those Greeks, huh? The bitter herbs, huh, are added in sign of the penance of their sin, huh? Which is necessary for those receiving the body of Christ. Huh?

[8:39] Important to remember that. I know. Okay. The loins are are bounder by the rope, I might say, or the chastity. Do you have chastity? Signature,

[9:05] thank you. When he puts signature on this, he says a prayer. Yeah. Yeah. And the shoes on the feet, I guess, cerementa, are examples of the what? Death of the dead fathers, I guess. How does that come out? Dead skins. But that turned out to be white. Dead fathers. I know they took the bones of Joseph. Saint Ephraim has a whole thing on that. but. They carried the bones of Joseph because he asked.

[9:34] He said, "Will you please take my bones with you?" But according to the law of Moses, to handle the bones of the dead makes them impure. But they didn't hesitate to do that. That's a sign. He says That's a figure of the Eucharist. Christ is not dead, while we carry his body around. It's very interesting.

[9:54] That was a sign of not being impure. Okay, and the rods I guess being had in the hands signifies the shepherd's custody, right? Care. Okay. Is commanded that in one house the Paschal lamb be eaten, because in the church of the Catholics there is not the conventicle of heretics. yes

[10:32] One house. Okay. Yeah that's what Shakespeare said right. One house, one feast, house, one mutual happiness. Could you repeat that please. At the end of the two gentlemen of Verona, right? Where they have a kind of double wedding, one house, one feast, one mutual happiness. I said to my friend Warren Murray one time, I said, "What line in Shakespeare best describes heaven? " He said, "What the hell?

[11:02] How do I know? " And I quoted, "This is the last line in that play: one feast, one house, happiness. " yeah. And what's beautiful about it too is it's perceived that rather very brief reconciliation between Proteus and Valentine Yeah. It's so profound what he says and that's because that's what I've often reflected on it myself how thick am I not only just to say okay you're forgiven to somebody to take it right back as if nothing happened That's a lot there that's a lot there Yeah.

[11:38] to think about There's a little penance there to tell the story of his loves to the Duke or whatever it is. That's a marvelous play, though you know.

[11:55] Hello. You missed our secondum, but you won't miss our tertium Okay. To the third should be said that certain sacraments of the new law are had what have in the old law sacraments figuring them corresponding to them. For to circumcision corresponds baptism, which is the sacrament of what faith. It's appropriate for the first. because the. Eucharist is kind of the sacrament of charity, it seems. Huh. I suppose.

[12:36] I suppose. Confession is their first. What they call now. Yeah, that's a bit of hope. It's a plank thrown to you after your shipwreck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have hope to survive. Yeah, but baptism is a sacrament of faith.

[13:03] For baptism corresponds to circumcision, right, which is a sacrament of faith. Hence, it is said in the Epistle to the Colossians, chapter two, "Circumcised, you are circumcised in the circumcision of our Lord Jesus Christ." You are buried with Him, right, in baptism.

[13:25] Now, the banquet, huh, of the Paschal Lamb, to this corresponds the new law, the sacrament of the what, Eucharist. So Thomas in the prayer there calls it convivium, right? Huh? He also calls heaven an ineffable convivium too. Okay.

[13:47] To all the purification of the old law corresponds the new law, the sacrament of penance, right? To the consecration of priests and high priests and priests corresponds the sacrament of order. But to the sacrament of confirmation, which is the sacrament of the fullness of grace, huh? You don't maybe emphasize it enough, right? You ever heard that described in these? I've been to a lot of confirmations, but you know, kind of idea, adulthood or becoming a soldier of Christ, you know, but but call the sacrament of the fullness of grace.

[14:29] Yeah, there's not correspond in the old law any sacrament, because the time of fullness had not yet come. In that the law brings no one to what perfection. That's very interesting, right? I think I'll just tell my priestly friends and say, now what sacrament that corresponds to sacrament of confirmation, the old one, and then they stumble around.

[14:56] Why is there no one corresponding to it? Because the fullness of grace. I was in college there, and I got into one of these required courses there in theology or religion there, and square circles. I was way ahead of everybody in the class, you know, and so finally the priest who was teaching, he went and got Father Dulac, and he says, "Give him a private." So I just went to Dulac and had a private course with him.

[15:32] So some advantage of that. Okay. Likewise, also the sacrament to the sacrament of extreme unction, which is a immediate preparation for the entrance into what glory. Who's uh, it's not open, right? Yeah. In the old law, the price of it not yet being what paid, yeah. So there's no nothing corresponding to the last anointing, huh? Yeah.

[16:07] We translate that in the old times. translated as extreme unction, right? But I mean, maybe the last anointing is maybe a better way of translating extreme there, right? It's not extreme anointing, but the last anointing, right? I mean, that's interesting, huh? It's a immediate preparation for the what? And a few things you haven't cleared up in your penance and so on, right? And number number of things that we're going to is going to help you to get a.

[16:38] Yeah, you're going to go to purgatory anyway, but it's going to cut down your purgatory. Yeah. Yeah. it's gonna help. Yeah. We'll grease you up before you put you in the pan. Yeah, yeah.

[16:54] Out of the pan. Okay, matrimony, however, was in the old what law? In so far as it was in the office of what? Nature, right? Not, however, in so far as as a sacrament of the joining of Christ and the Church was not yet made. Whence also in the old law was given the book of repudiation of the thing that Moses allowed, right? Which is against the ratio of the sacrament, huh?

[17:25] So, confirmation, the last anointing. What do they call it now? They call it the sacrament of the sick. Yeah, that's not. so well named, is it? I'm trying to remember do what do they call. Yeah, they they call. You could say about about confession. What was interesting is. Yeah. Even though that was a common name sacrament, even the old oil containers from long ago always had the word "oil."

[17:56] Oleum infirmorum oil of the sick. That's probably maybe why they got the name because it more corresponded more to what in practice it was. Yeah. That was I think the misconception on part of the faithful that they have to wait and wait and wait and put it off. Yeah. When the church wants to bestow it as much as possible. Yeah. It's not the last moment. Yeah. But I know we have we have that.

[18:37] So four of the sacraments there's a direct correspondence, but in three of them. To my friend, I told you my friend was teaching the confirmation. Right, he was teaching a review of the faith. So he comes in the first night. Yeah, yeah, for these kids, the first meeting, he says, you know. Can you name the seven sacraments, right? Well, collectively as a class, they couldn't come up with the names of the seven sacraments, and things like you know, graduation was some.

[19:16] You know, some kind of ceremony about it. I mean, they they have no you know understanding of it. There's an interesting little thing on the editorial page of the, Mr. Paper today, huh? My wife called my attention to. It's about and the title is Ben Franklin and the and the Holy See. Of course, he was kind of a. Yeah, he studied with the Jesuits didn't he, in France or something.

[19:43] Well, this is interesting, you know. The, I guess at that time the church in 1783, once after the final peace treaty, right? Church wanted you know promote something to a bishop here in the United States, and the papal uh man, there in Paris, consulted Franklin. You know who would be a good bishop? And this was because in those days, you know, government had more to do with who could be a bishop or not.

[20:13] Huh? They, you know, kind of mixture of church and state there. And so, I guess what happened is that Lincoln or Franklin went to something with Carroll, right? Huh? And Carroll's son was a Jesuit priest, right? And there's a bad road, and and the Jesuit priest was very attentive to to Franklin. You know, he couldn't forget that, so he suggested this is the man who should make the bishop.

[20:47] That's how the first bishop was, you know, Carroll, right? You know, he was for 32 years the only case of bishop, I guess. And so that's we get part of the Baltimore Catechism, you know, from from those. I know when that actually was first put to written up the

[21:02] Baltimore Catechism. Yeah, was kind of that was the oldest place for the first time for the bishop, the bishop, yeah, yeah, yeah. That should be kind of interesting little thing. Yeah, I didn't know either. No, Rosie said Rosie had saw and called my attention to it, and I said, "I said cut it out, and maybe give it to the grandchildren or something." And it's kind of interesting anecdote, though, you know, or interesting item from history there, but yeah.

[21:28] He's supposed to have had something to do with the founding of of what's the Jesuit college there, Georgetown, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that Oh, Carroll. Carroll, I think. I mean, his son, his son. I mean, was a Jesuit priest, yeah, but the bishop again, you know. Yeah, that's kind of interesting. Not too Catholic nowadays, but yeah.

[21:55] Anyway, but just you could give a whole you know lecture on this Tertium, you know, huh? Trying to explain this. Amazing how how rich the text of Thomas is.

[22:13] Is it Basil that thing you sent me? Yes. Poverty is a sore wit, you know. I mean, this all these things, yeah. Okay, to the fourth, huh? It should be said that it has been said that the purifications of the old law were ordered to removing the impediments of the divine worship, huh?

[22:39] Which is twofold, huh? The spiritual, which consists in the devotion of the mind to God, huh? And bodily, which consists in what sacrifices and offerings and other things of this sort from the. Spiritual

[23:03] worship, men are impeded through sins, huh? which men are said to be what polluted, I guess. Okay, as through idolatry and homicide and through adultery and incest, I guess. And from these pollutions, men are purified through some sacrifices, either offered in common for the whole multitude, or also for the sins of individuals.

[23:40] Not that those carnal sacrifices had from themselves the power of expiating sin, but because they signified the future expiation of sins through Christ, whose what? They were

[24:03] also partakers in some way the ancients, right? Yeah being partakers of faith Those who protested or professed faith of the Redeemer in the figures of sacrifices.

[24:16] So how many of them knew what these were? But some did, some didn't know. Now from the from the exterior cult or worship, men are impeded through certain bodily impurities, yeah, which are first considered in men, and consequently in other what animals and in clothing vestments.

[24:48] Yeah. In men, huh? Uncleanliness is right. Purities are regarded as being in part from the men themselves, but partly also from the contact of unclean things. This is a long one. It goes on for a whole page. Wow! I get a. Oh yeah. We should be doing this at Lent, you know.

[25:27] Okay. Now see, if I was editing the text, I'd have a little thing here, breaking down. we'll skip a line. Yeah. Make a little thing there. Okay. Now, from the men themselves, everything is regarded as what unclean, from which what some corruption, something what has. Or that it was exposed to some corruption, and because and therefore because death is a certain what corruption. The body of a man is regarded something what, yeah, unclean.

[26:11] So what does great Heraclitus say? You know that the body is more fit to be cast out than dung, you know, or something. Isn't that it's still customary the Jews that they bury you right away or something? Yeah, and I've even seen it sometimes when they have one of these suicide bombers or something, and the Jews, some of the I don't know whatever kind of Jews they are, the various observances, they'll have these people come in because they have to get up all the parts of the body that somebody gets blown up.

[26:43] Yeah. But they can't touch it. Yeah. So they wear all. It's not only for sanitary reasons, for for medicinal or health reasons, but for their ritual reasons. Yeah. They collect all these body parts, whatever, and they have special things they wear so that they don't touch the body. Yeah. Yeah.

[27:05] And likewise, because the leprosy, I guess, happens from the corruption of the fluids, right? Which also what erupt exteriorly and infect others, right? Huh? The lepers are regarded as what Unclean. Okay, they're dead in some way, to that symbol of sin. Anyway. Likewise, woman undergoing the flux of the blood, right? Huh? Menstrual cycle, I guess, something. Whether through infirmity or also through nature or in menstrual times and also the time of conception, huh?

[27:46] Okay. Then what the temple right to be cleansed aren't they? Even marry huh? Okay. In the same way, men are regarded as unclean, undergoing the flux of seed, right? Either through infirmity or through nocturnal pollution, or even through what intercourse, huh? Unclean. Okay. For all humidity in the foregoing ways, going forth from a man, have a certain unclean infection.

[28:23] There's also in men a uncleannessness from the contact of some unclean things, huh? Okay. Now he's going to come to the reasons for these, both literal and figurative, huh? Oh, just in Latin America, as of the late '80s, there was still the tradition in the Catholic parts of after giving birth, that four days where a woman would bathe, that time of purification. It was interesting. I know.

[28:56] I'm pretty sure the Maryland have a special blessing for the mother of the newborn child. It used to be in the Roman ritual too. After the birth of their child, whether firstborn or anything else, she would come for a special blessing. Just come to the church and receive a special blessing. And that's why, if you didn't know, that's why the Hallambys, this family we know, they brought one of the families.

[29:17] They brought their firstborn son here because we wanted them to be blessed. They've gone to the parish, but they want to come to the monastery because they have the desire to bring their child for blessing and mother. But they use these things in curses sometimes too, don't they? Even in the literature, you know. They use these, you know, these references, these unclean things. They use them in curses or that sort.

[29:44] Yeah. I'm turning red. I've seen them, but anyway. So he says the reason of these uncleannesses and so on is both literal. The letter and figurative, right? In the letter, on account of the reverence of those things which pertain to the divine worship.

[30:17] For men are not accustomed, right, to touch precious things when they are what? Unclean. Yeah. So I don't pick up my good books and I get my hands, you know, from eating. you know, I gotta, yeah, I gotta make sure it makes my hands are very dry too. Don't touch the tablecloth. Yeah yeah Don't get your mud on the rug. Yeah. Somebody picks up a nice book, you know, mine with soiled hands.

[30:44] I don't like that too much, you know. So I remember when Maria comes in with one of my had a three-volume set of the, you know, the history of the church. You know, when she come in, did she spill something on it or something. I shocked shocked to myself.

[31:06] Poor little kid. Since the letter, since the letter. Okay. Remember the old pastor, you know, they when they give communion, you know, across the mouth all the time, and and the priest would get, you know, that damn lipstick, you know. And so I heard him saying, and he goes, "No, you get older. Don't wear that awful red stuff." You're saying the old priest, you know. I guess that'd be very annoying, you know, to eat communion and you got that junk on there.

[31:56] It's. Well, that's what drives me. That's I mean, fortunately, we don't have that problem here, but I remember it. in some parishes where they would have communion out of the chalice for the people, Mm-hmm. And then when they get their lipstick off, Oh yeah. And then they wipe, and then you get all over the the linens. You get lipstick. Yeah. Well, okay. No, they don't wear lipstick when they go to church like that, you know.

[32:20] Yeah, why? Why? Okay. Um. Then also, from a rare accession, right, to the sacred things, they venerate them what more, huh? Since, however, these all these uncleanlinesses, rarely is someone able to what? Right. It happens, huh? That and rarely do men what Accede to attain those things which pertains to divine cult, and thus, when they accede to them, with more reverence and humility of mind they accede, huh?

[33:08] This is part of the, you know, like Father Poulé used to say, you know, for things like the, you know, for Thomas or for Shakespeare, you know, you should have three editions, right? One is the pocket book that you take on the train or on the airplane, and then your desk copy, you know, which is a little bigger one, and then the venerable copy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[33:35] So I remember, you know, of course, the the Leonine edition was the venerable edition of Thomas, you know, and and for Shakespeare had the big Anafesto, the big edition. Have a copy of myself now, you know. So that was his venerable edition for Shakespeare. you know.

[33:55] Now you can have them all on your computer. It's nice to hear him hear him quote Shakespeare too with his French accent, you know. It's

[34:04] a good man. Good man. Okay. There was also in some of these a what? A reason in the letter, right? A reason of the letter. Maybe he said that a reason of the letter. Maybe that'd be a way of translating it, huh? That men what would not.

[34:39] Fear, I guess. Yeah, to accede to the divine worship, as who are refusing the what consortium, huh? The coming together of lepers and other such infirm peoples, whose sickness was abominable and what? Contagious. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's a woman that Christ cures, you know, for the blood flow, right? She'd be guarded on as being

[35:06] unclean, wouldn't she? Yeah. I can't remember now. Was he criticized, you know, for doing that or not? No, because she approached him and touched him. Yeah, yeah. It took took some bravery. in her, yeah, courage. in her, right? Courage for her not only because approaching, him, but just because she knew that she was in some way violating the law by touching him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone touched me.

[35:29] Did he say that? Yeah. Imagine you're in the midst of a crowd. I know. I know. What did he say? Yeah, crazy thing to say. Yeah, in the middle of a crowd. In some, the reason was to avoiding the worship of idolatry, right, huh? Because Gentiles, in the rite of their sacrifices, use sometimes human blood and what? Seed, yeah? How vulgar, huh? Sounds like satanic stuff. Yeah.

[36:01] Now all of these uncleanlinesses of this sort, bodily ones, are purified either through what just the sprinkling of water, or the things that were what greater, through which some sacrifice for expiating sin, from which such infirmities happen to be touched. Okay. What's the name you know asperges Yeah, Yeah. What's the singing of that? Is it kind of a pullback to this? Mm hmm And they're kind of cleansing the the congregation there with the sprinkling?

[36:58] Kind of now it's more kind of musical, you know. That wakes them up, you know. As effective, wake them up. Yeah. Yeah, as part of the penitential rites. Is there any connection there with the phrase casting aspersions? Maybe so. As it was sprinkling, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that has a negative connotation. If I remember correctly, don't cast aspersions or something like that. It's like a dog shaking, you know, when he jumps in the pond, he's gonna give you an aspersion.

[37:31] Believe me, I've experienced that way too often. I have to annoy my brother Marcus. You know, my we never had a washing machine. You know, my mother would wash the dishes and I'd wipe, or my brother Marcus would wipe, and and you get something. You know, like asperges Marcus. Oh yeah. The boys end up annoying each other. That's what we used to do. You'd be washing dishes and telling knock knock jokes.

[37:55] Knock knock Who's it? John. John who? John the Baptist. Okay. So the ratio figuralis now, huh? The figurative reason of these uncleanlinesses was that through these exterior uncleanlinesses, huh? How do they translate immunditiae Impurities. Impurities. Because means you know, unclean, right? Immundus. Uncleanlinesses. Yeah, that's what I say. It's kind of a big word for me to say. Impurities. Yeah. Are figured diverse what sins, huh? Okay. So this is the figurative reason

[38:49] for the uncleanliness of the cadaver of any sort signifies the uncleanness of sin, which is the death of the what soul, huh? Now the uncleanness of leprosy, yes, signifies the uncleanness of heretical doctrine. I didn't, you didn't call the. You're a leper. I'll say that to the next heretic I meet, huh? Yeah. Oh your your teaching is is leprosy, huh? Yeah. I suppose the idea is it's catching too, huh?

[39:28] Leprosy, right? It's actually, I think, one of the least contagious. It is. Okay. But but still, it's but it is because of Damien the saint now, Saint Damien of Molokai. But it was there many many years before he got it. Yeah. yeah. Bacteria that most people are are resistant to. Yeah.

[39:52] So he says both because heretical doctrine is contagious. Just as leprosy, right? Huh. Also, because no false doctrine is which, what does not, does not make true things fal false things, right. Just as in the body of the in the surface of the body of the leper appears a certain distinction of stained parts from others where the flesh is still, what? Intact. Yeah, That's kind of, that's kind of interesting, huh?

[40:24] Yeah. It's a leprosy person's got leprosy, but the whole body is not. No, just parts. Yeah, yeah. That's what heresy is. it's a mixture of the true and the false. There was an element of truth in that. Yeah. Yeah. There was a leper. I saw down in the Caribbean who uh, looked completely healthy except his fingers were almost gone and the bones were sticking out. Yeah. That's pretty unsettling to see.

[40:50] Yeah. Yeah. Poor guy. Yeah. Okay. Now, through the uncleanliness of the woman in her blood flow, is designated the uncleanliness of idolatry, huh? On account of the what? Legs of the arms the legs Oh what? Oh, I'm sorry, crew roy that's right. I'm sorry.

[41:28] The blood. The blood of the ones immolated I guess Immolation Okay. Uh the uncleanness of the what? The male seed, I guess, huh? Is designated the uncleanness of vain speech, huh? In that seed is the word of what God, huh? It's very interesting. This figurative reason, huh? Through the uncleanliness of coition, and of the what? Woman and child birth. Yeah, it's designating the uncleanliness of original sin, huh?

[42:07] Because that's supposed to be transmitted, isn't it Okay. Through the uncleanness of the woman menstruating is designated the uncleanness of the mind through softness of pleasures Yeah. Yeah. Don't try to explain this from from the from the pulpit. He'll be reported to the bishop or somebody.

[42:41] And universally through the uncleanness of the contact of a what? Unclean thing. Yeah, is designated the uncleanliness of consent, of consent, in the sin of another, right, huh? According to that of the second epistle to the Corinthians, chapter six. Go forth from the middle of them and be what separated, and do not touch it unclean.

[43:10] Now the uncleanness of these sorts, the contact of the sort of these unclean things, is derived also to what inanimate things. For whatever in any way touches something unclean becomes unclean, I guess. What were

[43:45] they saying there? The Dominicans sent me something there from the. I guess they have a a part of the true cross, right? And they send you a little cloth that's touched to the true cross, so it becomes like a a second, third class, yeah, yeah. Well, here it's the reverse. He's touching an unclean thing, and it's being passed on, right? Huh? You know. I remember somebody. Frank Duff is the founder of the Legion of Mary, Mhm And I know somebody when he died, somebody gave them a stapler that he used.

[44:20] that Frank Duff used. Yeah. And my friend always said, if he ever gets canonized every time I staple, there's gonna be a third class relic. Okay.

[44:48] Okay. In which the law, right, weakens as a continu of it. The superstition of the Gentiles, who not only through contact of the unclean said that one contracted uncleanness, but also through what speech or aspect, as Rabbi Moses says, huh, about the woman menstruating. Wow. This is mystically signified that which is said in the Book of Wisdom, chapter fourteen. Likewise, in hate to God are the impious man and his impiety,

[45:34] He doesn't always love the sinner, then I guess. Saint James said something like that too. I had a conversation with heretics or outsiders. You shared their uncleanness or something.

[45:58] There is also uncleanliness of the things themselves of what inanimate things in themselves, huh? Just as there was the uncleanliness of the leper in his house and in his what clothing, yeah.

[46:17] For just as the what sicknesses of the leprosy happens to men from the corrupt fluid putrefacting, making putrid the flesh and corrupting it, So also on account of some corruption and excess of humidity or dryness, there comes sometimes some corrosion in the house my goodness, or also in the clothing,

[46:48] and therefore this corruption the law calls what law of leper, leper law, from which the house or the unclean vestment is judged, and because all corruption pertains to uncleanliness as has been said, and also because against corruption of these sorts the Gentiles what worshipped one kind of gods I guess, yeah, household gods, household as preservative against this corruption, and therefore the law commanded that what houses of this sort in which there was such a corruption persevering to be destroyed, the vestments burned to taking away the occasion of idolatry.

[47:42] I don't know about you Thomas, you're really gone. Okay, there is also a certain uncleanliness of what vessels about which it is said, huh? Vasa quae non habent operimentum nec ligaturam desuper It's not having what covering, I guess. Yeah binding Yeah, is unclean.

[48:16] To put the cover on the milk and put the cork back in the bottle. Who's un? They both go bad, and they both go bad. Yeah, yeah. Cause of whose uncleanliness is because in such faces easily something unclean can fall, right? Whence they can be made unclean, right?

[48:42] There is also this precept to decline away from idolatry, right? Huh? For the idolatrous believed that if the what walls. Mice, yeah, or the what lacerta Lizards, Yeah or something of this sort, which they offered to idols would suddenly fall into vases or on waters, which would be most what? Pleasing to the gods Yeah. Moreover there were also some what?

[49:20] Women's vessels Yeah. Some women down uncovered vessels in honor of the nocturnal deities, which they call Janas It's obscure things here. that. It's interesting in Italy even today. uh, anthropological studies show there's all sorts of old time superstition, ancient superstition still in the various communities that have their, I guess, the regions have their own dialects, their own traditions, and so with medicine they have all these traditional healing and also superstitious stuff, including occult stuff, which goes way way back.

[50:00] so. It's true, it's even among Lebanese. it's Mm they have a lot of superstitions about a lot of things. I was told, I was reminded of one, if you ever see the Lebanese wearing what's the blue stone, topaz? That with the topaz or something? That's a superstitious thing to avoid. That would repel the evil eye. If you see a Christian wearing one, you should because a lot of them don't know it's superstitious.

[50:23] Yeah, yeah. Just wear it like that or something. It's popular, but it's actually superstitious. Turquoise? Turquoise. That's the one I'm thinking of. Yeah, turquoise. So that's one of their superstitions. Now these uncleannesses, the reason that is figurative, is that that through the leprosy of the house is signified the uncleanness of the congregation of heretics. Through leprosy in the what linen vestments signifies the perversity of mores from the mind.

[50:59] I'm guessing have a work on the morals of the Manichees. Wait, is one of the Moors the Catholic Church? Yeah. But to leprosy of the

[51:13] not linen, what is it, lani, lani? Linen garment. What? Linen garment. Linen garment, Okay, is signified the perversity of flatterers. Through leprosy in the woolen garment, it signified the vices of the soul.

[51:35] Through leprosy in the what? Warp. Under this. Leprosy in the warp signifies the vices of the soul. Leprosy on the woof denotes sins of the flesh. As for the warp, as for as the warp is in the woof, so is the soul in the body. There you go. I know something about weaving.

[52:04] For a vase does not have a cover or or tie. It signified the man who does not have the the veil of taciturnity. I love that. And is not restricted by any censure of discipline or something. That's what that's what so many people need today is the virtue of taciturnity. Yeah. I remember how exactly holding on there. You know, I tell you like that he's gonna you know say, say nothing unthought of you know and nothing.

[52:34] uh, uh. The statue they have on Spencer of Saint Benedict. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's a couple that we know in the parish there, and and their daughter brought their two children there two of their grandchildren, and they were kind of very active in church there. Be right behind them, you know that. So and the little boy, of course, it was worse. than the little girl So I was going to go out of church this morning, you know, and I ran into the grandfather, and he says, "Did we disturb you with our...

[53:18] I remember when the kids were, little, you know, I'd come home and I say to Rosalie, you know, I think I'm going to go back and go to another mass. I said, "it's like I wasn't at mass, you know." you're so distracted with the kids sometimes. These kids.

[53:36] Okay. So we're up to the ad quintum. Take a little break here now. A little break after that.