Prima Secundae
252. Why the Old Law Forbade Certain Foods: Clean and Unclean Animals, Literal and Figurative Reasons
Class of 2015-12-03
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[0:00] Yeah. I answer it should be said, huh, that the Judea people, right? Judea people. yeah, yeah. were especially deputed, right? For the divine worship, huh? And among them, especially the what? Priests, right?

[0:27] And just as other things which are applied to the divine worship ought to have something special about them, right, which pertains to the giving of honor to the divine cult, so also in the way of life of that people, and especially the priests, there ought to be some special things that are suitable for the divine worship, either spiritual or bodily, right? But now the worship of the law figured the mystery of Christ.

[1:00] Hmm. That's interesting, isn't it? Whence all of those things, done, figured those things which, what? Christ, according to that of 1 Corinthians 10. Omnia in figura contingebant illis. You get the word figurum, right? All things happen to them in a figure. And therefore, the reasons for these observations can be assigned in two ways. In one way, according to their suitability for the divine worship. Another way, according as they figure something about the life of...

[1:46] Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? Okay, we now just got to do this 11 times and show that these things are true, huh? Yeah. True, yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of footnotes in here too.

[2:05] Okay. To the first therefore, which is quoting Timothy there, right? Nothing. Everything's good. Everything creature of God is good and so on. Even the pig is good, right? Because it's a creature of God.

[2:26] But, you know, kind of worried about the, the grandchildren might, if they're going to get pigs, I don't know if they're going to. They could be nasty, I guess, going to get a little child a pig, you know. Well, that's what our Lord says. Don't cast your pearls before swine, they turn on you. Yeah. Yeah. To the first, therefore, it should be said, as has been said above, twofold is pollution or uncleanliness.

[2:55] Was observed in the law, right? One of what? Guilt. Guilt, through which the soul was, what, polluted, I guess. The other of a certain corruption, through which, in a way, was what? Stained, yeah. In speaking therefore the first uncleanliness, no genre of foods were unclean, right? Or could be able to, what, stain man, huh? inquinare? According to their, what, nature, right? Whence it is said in the Matthew chapter 15, not what enters into the mouth, uh, stains a man, I guess, but the things that proceed from his mouth, right?

[3:45] These are the ones that make the man unclean, right? Stain. And this is expounded about what? Sins. Okay, but it's possible, however, for the- for some foods, per accidens, to stain the soul, insofar as they are against, what, obedience or a vow, right, or they're eaten with, what, exceeding concupiscence, huh? Or insofar as they give a what inclination to luxury, which is sins of the flesh, yeah, lust, On account of which some abstain from wine and flesh.

[4:41] To describe, you know, Dominic bringing the barrels of wine over the mountain to the sisters, right? But he himself is not going to drink any wine.

[4:56] Okay. Now, according to bodily uncleanness, which is of a certain what corruption, some fleshes of animals have a what uncleanness, either because they are nourished from unclean things, as the porcus, pork. So you get the word pork, I guess, huh? Porcus, Latin. Yeah. Or because they what lived uncleanly, just as some animals under the dwelling under the earth, right, As the what? Moles and mice. Moles and mice, and others of this sort.

[5:45] Why I told you what my grandchild said, right? You know, talking about the cat, right? I was trying to, I like to to spoil the cat, right? Give a little bits of meat and things on the table and so on and that sort of stuff. And so I was trying to encourage them to be nice to the cat around there. And so one day, trying to make it pretty strong, I spoke of the cat as my friend, right?

[6:12] And then Miles, there the boy, oldest boy, he said, "Your friend eats mice." I said, "Touche, touche." I thought it's marvelous. you know I was thinking this is my friend. You know, your friend eats mice.

[6:34] We had very fun with that with that remark, you know. I tell you, to most of our people, you know. They have all these calendars out, you know, with pictures of cats on them. You know, they're very photogenic, huh? You know, they're they're they're not as self-aware of themselves we are. You know, we're kind of you know.

[7:01] Don't know what to do with them. They go, "Let's take your picture." You know. This reminds me of what he said. Whence also they contract a certain what fetidness.

[7:23] And because their fleshes, on account of superfluous humidity or dryness, right, generate corrupt humors in the human bodies, and therefore these fleshes of animals are prohibited, having what?

[7:49] What is that? solidam Flat footed Flat footed That is ungulam continuam Horn or? Something. Oh, that's um. These animals that have uh, yeah, their their hoofs and uncloven uncloven hoofs. yeah, They don't have. They're kind of their terrestrial and so. And likewise, are prohibited the fleshes of animals having many what? Brakes in their feet. Who are exceedingly choleric and

[8:28] eating heat. Their flesh is very dry. To sedusta. To dust. Lions. I never thought of They have many toes yeah I don't think of that. as a cleft Divided divided What does Hamlet say, "you know that Polonius where's his body, you know, they say he's in the dust, to which he is like."

[9:06] Okay. Just as the fleshes of the lion, things of this sort, huh? And for the same reason, are prohibited birds that are what rapacious, which are exceedingly dry,

[9:26] and some aquatic birds, on account of their excessive humidity, and likewise certain what's not having. uh... Yeah. And what's the name was on Mule. Eels. Eels? Yeah, such as eels and the like, because of their excessive moisture. Yeah. That's why I don't want to eat octopuses. Thank you very much. So I'm not giving it. I know it's calamari. Supply of that

[10:02] seafood mix. I wonder if that was from my mother. she loves calamari. No that was I think the curse That was a big bag of frozen Do you ever have octopus Seafood parts No, no. Yeah, the octopus. Octopus tends to be tough, but the squid, which is what the calamari is, comes in different species or subspecies. Some are very tender and fine; those the expensive ones. But the more run-of the mill ones are chewy, like octopi are.

[10:31] You can keep them alive. I worked in the package store. I used to be. a guy who'd come in there, and he'd talk to the to the to the manager. You know, they're both crazy about calamari. That's all they talk about. I didn't know what calamari was, but yeah. You can keep it. Thanks. I wonder if they ever thought of some octopus flavored gum or something like that?

[10:56] Yes, but somebody once said about you know, you have cat food that's flavored like chicken. Yeah. Why don't they flavor it like mice? and flavor it like rats? What does the cat care about chicken? They want they like mice? like squirrels. or something.

[11:17] But they're cons conceded to them the eating of what? Certain ruminating animals, right? I'd always heard that ruminating animals were allowed because they signify, you know, the thoughtful person who thinks thinks things over, you know. Ruminating animals, I guess, can draw up the food again and chew it over again, you know. You know, and you have to do that to really learn these things. That's kind of a spiritual sense.

[11:44] Maybe I'll bring it up here, but they don't eat a whole people yeah. And ruminating animals and findentia ungulam A kind of a that's a tongue ungula. Ungula, is the horn, or it could be the hoof too Oh, okay. What's findentia though? Findentia Divided hoof. Yeah, I guess the cloven like a cow. Okay. Cow, goat, sheep, they have a cloven this one, one. Because these have humors that are well digested and are medium complexion, yeah.

[12:23] Neither too hot, which signifies what? Horns. Nor exceedingly earthly. When they did not have what? They don't have an uncloven hoof. Yeah, continuous, but they have one that has a split. Yeah. I guess that's the difference. And fish were conceded to them the what? The drier ones. Yeah. What signifies to this that they have? What are squamas?

[12:58] Tails and things. Tails, wings. Tails, fins, and scales. Yeah. Okay. For through this they are of a temperate complexion. The what the fishes. Temperate complexion or something. In birds also are conceded conceded the ones that are more temperate, huh? As the chickens. Chicken, okay, that's good. Partridge. Oh, Saint Teresa of Avila loved partridge She loved partridge. What do you say?

[13:34] Partridge, fasting is fasting. Partridge is partridge, did you say. Partridge. yeah. Fasting is fasting, and partridge is partridge. You said yeah. You told us that quote. Yeah. Someone's complaining about her enjoying it, you know.

[14:00] Another reason was in the detesting of idolatry, right? Because the Gentiles, and especially the Egyptians, among whom they were what nourished, these prohibited animals they immolated to their what idols, right? Or because they used them for what? Cursing

[14:23] or malice, But the animals which were conceded to the Jews for eating, they did not eat right, and they, as it were as gods worshipped right, eh? On account of some other cause for them they abstained, as has been said above. Whose was it? that people in India, don't they? They they have the sacred what? Cows. Yeah, some of that. I was just thinking about that and McDonald's.

[14:54] I bet there are maybe McDonald's in India. You know that that chain Chick Fil A right? And they always have these cows. You know, you know, eat eat chicken. You know, eat chicken. That's a good ad They're even sponsoring some of the big football games now too. You know, and and you see that the you know that that comes on the big you know cut the cow saying you know eat chicken eat chicken.

[15:27] He's very clever. Very clever. They made headlines a few years ago about that because they refused. I think it goes up. it goes up on Sunday, you know, because I remember we we have a Chick Fil A there now down down back nine there, and not in Shrewsbury, but just down the road there, and Rose and I are up there on Sunday around that area. Say, gee, Rose, that looks like it's closed.

[15:51] Yeah, they they close on Sunday. Oh, they must be Christian. Yeah, yeah, they're in trouble with the government, you know, for something. Gay thing or something. Yeah, one of those things. They didn't sign on with them, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I remember they were. I don't know where they originated, but I know they were. I knew them down south. here but I've never seen them up here.

[16:08] Now there's, I guess, they're. Yeah, they were very tasty, and they had my sister used to like they had that carrot raisin salad when they used to make you had that with Chick Fil A. You know the fact that they're advertising like this and that they're spreading up north says a lot that even though they're an enemy of the government, you know, there's a lot of public support on their side.

[16:30] Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, when they got in trouble they were everywhere going to try to find the place you know, eat the one of the places, you know. Yeah, that was the way the government, all the media people were poo-pooing them, and so everybody in the country went to buy from them, you know. Yeah, we went down to Boston I think, to go to one of the places that didn't wasn't in our area.

[16:47] Just, just. I'll go down there just to buy something. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Third reason is to taking away a what exceeding diligence about foods, and therefore they conceded to them those animals which easily and promptly can be had. Right. Did you say anything about goose

[17:31] Now, generally, was prohibited to them the eating of what, blood, and the fats of animals, yeah. Of blood, to avoiding what cruelty or crudeness, cruelty.

[17:51] That's crudeness, cruelty. Yeah. That they detest what to shed human blood, as has been said above, huh? And also to avoiding the rite of idolatry, huh?

[18:09] Because it was their custom to what, around blood to, what, congregate to be united, to eating in honor of the idols, to whom they regarded blood as most what acceptable. Which is complicated.

[18:32] And therefore, the Lord commanded that blood be what, Shed, Yeah, And be covered with. Oh, shed blood. yeah. That's the, uh... Covered with dirt. yeah. Yeah. Is that what he was referring to, one of the objections? No, that was that was

[18:56] a very different litany here. Yeah. This is a long plate of the first objection here, huh? Yeah. okay. Wow. Yeah, sure is. And account of this it was also prohibited to eat animals that were suffocated or strangled, because the blood of them was not separated from the what flesh.

[19:20] What do they do with the Jewish food there? What do you call it? Kosher. Yeah. Have to cut the throats Yeah they slit their throats. I guess you slit their throat I suppose And you hang them upside down. right I think that's all of it That's what they still do I mean. But they drain the blood out, or what? I think so. I know it's about another hour.

[19:39] They slaughter animals. He used to slaughter animals and stuff, and that's what they. I don't know if they could hang the cow, but so it was smaller ones. I know that's what they. That would kill rabbits and chickens, and they hang them upside down, drain the blood. Let American take a chicken. You hang it upside down and then you cut its throat. Mm. What do they say to do for deer?

[20:02] Not catch you to shoot these. You shoot a deer and then you hang him upside down, Yeah. That's probably what Habibi finds in the woods and holes and stuff like that. Speaking of which. twice been scratching on the door here so brought him down to the library to get him a volume on Saint Thomas and he's uh reading an introduction now where McInerney's Thomas books Canine version Okay On account of this, it was prohibited for them to eat animals suffocated or strangled, because the blood of them was not separated from the flesh, or because in such a death animals were much afflicted, and the Lord wished them to rid them from cruelty,

[21:02] so that they might more recede from cruelty to men, right? Having the exercise of piety, even towards beasts. Of fat, also the eating was prohibited, because the idolaters ate it in honor of their gods.

[21:26] Going back to Homer's description there of preparing those meals, you know. Also because they what burned it in honor of God. Also because blood and fat do not generate good nourishment. Which Rabbi Moses, hey, maybe he's the guy behind these things, which he brought in for a cause.

[22:00] And the cause of the prohibition of the eating of what Nerves. is expressed in Genesis 32, that the sons of Israel should not eat what, The nerve. Yeah, and that the Jacob, and that they touched the nerve,

[22:19] he became stupefied. huh Jacob walked with a limp He was struggling, wasn't he? I was. But then the the angel struck him. on his sciatica or whatever.

[22:33] Share a little break here. 43. Okay, after the figurative ones, now, right? I broke up properly, didn't I? I took a break. I didn't realize we're right here at the figural.

[22:56] The figurative reason of these things is because through all of these animals that are prohibited, were designated somewhat sins, huh? In the figure of which those animals were what? Prohibited, huh? Because it signified something sinful. Whence Augustine says, huh? In the book against Faustus, huh?

[23:25] If one asks about the pig and the lamb, right? Both, right? By nature is clean, right, huh? Because every creature of God is what? Good, huh?

[23:41] But by a certain signifying, right? The lamb is clean, but the pig is unclean, huh? Okay. Just as if what? You say the words, I guess, foolish and wise. Yeah. Both are words by nature of the sound and the letters of the syllables. It's clean, right? It's clean. But the signification one is clean and the other unclean. That's like a subtle thing, huh? Yeah. Okay. Now the animal that ruminates, right?

[24:40] Split hoof. Is clean in its signifying, right? Because the hoof signifies the distinction of the two testaments, or the Father and the Son, or the two natures in Christ, or the discretion of good and bad, huh?

[25:16] That's pretty stretched, isn't it? Um. Rumination, now that's the one I that would make some sense to me, signifies the meditation of scriptures and the healthy understanding of them, huh?

[25:40] For to whoever either these is lacking, is unclean, right? Similarly, in the fish, those who have scales and incivication are clean, because through the what fins are signified the sublime life or contemplation. Through the scales, is it are signified the um ascetic life we might say Yeah both of whom is necessary for Life of trials Life of trials Yeah aspera aspera. Both of which are necessary for spiritual cleanliness.

[26:49] But isn't there some kind of a slogan there with aspera in it? You know, per aspera something to the higher things. Yeah, to the stars. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[27:07] In birds, some genera are what prohibitive. In the eagle, which flies alte high, pride is prohibited, right? Now, see that in the gospel there, you know, where the body is, there the eagle shall be gathered. There, the eagle is taken in a good sense, right? Yeah. But here he's saying that because it flies above all the other birds, I guess.

[27:40] Pride is signified by that, huh? Shakespeare does that in the history plays, huh? You know, when when the birds are flying up, you know, and the f and the th this guy's bird is flying here, that goes, and they talk about you know they're they're being you know pride you know in their. Shakespeare has that down very well. Okay.

[28:05] In the what griff? It's a griffin. It's a griffin. Which is a um, mythical figure, a cross between like an eagle and a lion. Yeah.

[28:19] Who is what? Is he made up of them or what? Horse and men, Which is hostile to horses and men. Oh infestus okay. To horses and men, cruelty is prohibited. in I guess one's having power Powerful, yeah. But a griffin was a mythical beast, and they were supposed to be particularly, I think, annoying to knights and stuff like that because they would go after their horses. That's why it says.

[28:50] That's why it says they were. Horses and men Yeah. Yeah. Yeah it's interesting how I never remember the Jews being forbidden to eat griffins, But they don't exist. Why is he talking about griffins? Well, it must be in the Old Testament somewhere. Okay, now in. haliaeetus Osprey I guess. Who feeds on what? Little birds. He signifies those who molest the poor. Yeah. yes.

[29:37] The kite. The kite. Yeah. Who, most of all, uses insidious tricks, huh? Is designated the fraudulent, huh? In the Vulture. Vulture, who follows an army expecting to eat the members of the dead. Yeah. Signifies those who are what?

[29:57] Or tis. I- I guess they they um conspire or something Mm. for seditions and so forth that they might benefit, they might Yeah. make profits. There's like people make money on selling weapons. My brother Mark would go climbing mountains there with with Ron McArthur and so on, you know, and so on, and Ron McArthur. Other guys who are better shaped than Ron, you know, Ron would be, you know, kind of lagging behind, and you see the the vultures start, you know, circling you, you know, you know, they see somebody kind of falling back, you know.

[30:35] Yeah. You know that that's a- Easy bait. it's kind of a warning to you, you know, to get in shape for it. Yeah. Just going down essentially a cliff on our property here with Habibi. And we got to an impasse where Habibi just couldn't go any further. Stuck. He was looking a little distressed. Then I noticed a shadow, and I looked up, and there were these two vultures over us.

[31:08] Okay. Okay, so they signify those who are what? Taking up with the with the deaths, is it, And the seditions, the fighting, I suppose, of men that they might gain from this. They like others to die or to fight among themselves that they may gain thereby. Yeah. To animals of the um raven or crow or something raven raven.

[31:42] It signifies those who are degraded is it? Denigrated. By pleasures, Yeah, blackened with, uh, pleasures, I guess. or who are lacking in good affection, right?

[31:55] Because the raven, once sent from the ark, did not return. Yeah that's right not like the dove Through the struthionem struthionem ostrich. Who, though he be a bird, is not able to fly. But is always around the earth. It signified those what? Fighting against God.

[32:26] Oh, fight for God. Yeah. And implicating themselves in secular Business businesses, huh? The. Tikerax is night owl or something. Who in the night is of acute vision, in the day does not see. Signifies those who are astute in temporal things, but dull in spiritual things.

[32:54] The um, Larus. Gull. The what? Gull. Gull? Seagull or something. Who flies in the air and swims in the water? Signify those who. Circumcision and baptism.

[33:13] Is that right? Or signifies those who, who contemplation wish to what, fly. And nevertheless, they live in the waters of pleasures. What's the next one say Accipiter. Who serve men to what? Hunt. Yeah.

[33:40] Those who serve the powerful to depriving or. The Yeah. The bubonum. Who in the night seeks food, but to the day hides. Signify the lustful who seek to be hot in their nocturnal works. which they do. The mergulus.

[34:14] What do they call them Cormorant Cormorant. Whose nature it is to be under the what waves? Is it? They do say a long time underwater. Yeah. Yeah. They they they dive into the water. Signify the the um, people eat too much, I guess. Who immerse themselves in the waters of delight, so.

[34:44] The ibis is that a. I think the ibex, I guess we still have that one. Yeah. Is it a bird in Africa having a long what? Beak.

[34:58] And he feeds in the serpents. Oh my God. Perhaps is the same as the chiconia What's the Chiconia. Stork. Stork. And signifies the envious who are refreshed with the evils of others, as it were, with serpents.

[35:20] The cygnus of the swan is of a bright color and a what neck. From the the deep of the earth or the water, he draws his food. And it signifies men who through their. Exterior candor of justice, seek earthly. Yeah.

[35:48] Oh my goodness. The onocrotalus what's that? The bittern The what The bittern Bittern B I T T E R N B I T T Never heard of it A large marsh bird of the heron family typically smaller than a heron with brown streaked plumage There you go It's a brown heron so the blue Yeah. In which it first puts the food and then afterwards it sends it into its stomach.

[36:20] Yeah. And signifies the avarice, who, with immoderate solicitude, gathers the necessities of life. The wine seller. huh There you go. Porphyrio He's got he's got a uh footnote the coot Coot c o o t. She had pictures of all these birds and things. The old dictionary I have here has some, some pictures of them. But the footnote says Saint Thomas's description tallies with the coot or moorhen, though of course he is mistaken about the feet differing from one another.

[37:04] Well, the coot is an aquatic bird of the rail family with black plumage, lobed feet, and bill extends back into the forehead as a horny shield. It is the source of cooties. What's the Porphyrio? What's the next one? say That is that is the the coot or the Porphyrio Oh Porphyrio I'm sorry okay. One foot wide, one four. It has a webbed foot for swimming and cloven foot for walking.

[37:41] That's what he's talking about. that he's mistaken, Yeah. About the feet being different. Because he swims in the water like a duck, like a duck. He walks on the earth like a quadruped. And in the custom of the morsel, he drinks with the morsel. When it bites, he drinks only when it bites.

[38:10] I don't understand that one. Since it dips all its food in water. Oh, so that's the only time it drinks. So when it's eating. Okay, the only time it drinks. It signifies those who nothing, who wish nothing to the what. The will of another, judgment of another. Yeah, but only what was touched with the water, of their own will. My goodness.

[38:38] This is the uh. The heron, Heron. Vulgarly is called the Falcon. Falcon. Signifies those whose feet are swift to flooding, Shedding blood. shedding blood, huh?

[38:54] The Caradius who's that? Apparently, that's the generic name for all plovers, but they translated the plover. Plover, P L O V E R. It's a talkative bird, right? Signifies the loquacious. Yeah. Upupa. What's Upupa? The hoopoe. The what? Hoopoe, hoopoe. Like the whooping bird Hoop and O E. Makes its nest in the stercore That doesn't sound very nice. Yeah, that's why it sounds like it's groaning. And simulates its sound in cantu.

[39:43] It's a chant, song. Signifies the sadness of the age, which in unclean men works death. Wow. That's the bat. Something you know. I don't know how to recognize that name. Okay. Who? Flies above the earth. signifies those who uh, endow with particular science, huh? Savor only earthly things. huh? Okay.

[40:24] See, Aristotle compares our mind to that, right? Okay. Concerning the what? Birds. And the quadrupeds, those only are considered whose back legs longer and accustomed to leap. Yeah. Others which more adhere to the earth prohibited. Because those who abuse the teaching of the four evangelists. They do not. They're not elevated on high. Yeah. They are regarded as what? Unclean. In blood, however, in fat and nerve, understood to prohibited cruelty and pleasure and strength-for sinning.

[41:22] Wow. Mouthful here. So we get time for the ad secundum. The second should be said that the eating of plants and of other things growing from the earth, I guess, was what. Before the. flood. Even before the flood. Ad futo, that's was allowed or not? Yeah. Yes, I'm sorry. But the eating of flesh was introduced after the flood,

[42:01] okay? For it is said in Genesis nine, as it were, I've given. you all flesh as the herbs green herbs Yeah And this, therefore, because the eating of things growing from the earth more pertains to certain simplicity of life, but the eating of flesh to certain what? Delights and the curiosity of living.

[42:36] So eat that uh. uh Octopus, you know, that's curiosity. I don't want to do that. I don't want to be that curious. Okay. Spontaneously, right? Earth germinates the plant, or with little Effort. effort, these things growing from the earth are procured in great abundance.

[43:12] But it requires much work to nourish animals and or to capture them, right? And therefore, the Lord, wishing to reduce the people to a more simple life, prohibited to them many things in the genus of what animals, not however, in the genus of things growing from the earth, or also because animals were immolated to the idols, but not things growing from the earth.

[43:46] Simply because in the old law, they were sometimes offering grain and what not. Yeah. Did you ever get into discussions? You know, if you're going to be a biologist, would you be a a botanist or or a zoologist? Right. It's much nicer to cut up the plants, isn't it, than cut up the animals, right? Yeah. Yeah. I still remember some guys, you know, in the dissecting classes, you know, they could sit there, you know, dissecting and eating their sandwich for lunch.

[44:15] Yeah, I don't know. how you do that Well I I found that you know, if I had a meat sandwich, you know, after kind of being in the lab, I mean it wasn't very attractive to me, you know, meat sandwich. That's amazing! Guys can sit there, you know, with that sandwich and poke at it, poke at the thing, you know. Those ones had a cold. So this is what you've done: dissecting the frog, roasting the frog's legs on the Bunsen burner.

[44:48] You you experienced that? No, I've never done that. Just adds to the flavor. It's not as sweet as ours. Well, the third one is short. huh Third one is easy Yeah, we get to the third one. We can even do the fourth I think Okay, get the fourth one.

[45:16] To the fourth, it should be said that although the what goat is it kid, yeah, does not sense in what way it's what flesh are cooked. Nevertheless, in the soul of the one, what cooking it. It pertains to a certain cruelty if the milk of the mother right, which was given to her to her for nourishment, is given as for the consumption of his flesh. Or can be said that the Gentiles in their solemnities of yeah um in such a way, cooked the what, fleshes of the goat for offering them up or for eating them.

[46:10] And therefore, in Exodus twenty-three, after it was said about the solemnities to be celebrated in the law, it said, "You will not cook the goat in the milk of its mother, right? "

[46:26] But the figurative reason of this prohibition is because it prefigured that Christ, who is called a goat and come the likeness of the flesh of sin, was not what. To be cooked. To be cooked by the Jews. Yeah. In the milk of its mother, that is, in the time of his infancy. Or it signifies that the goat that is a sinner, not be cooked in the milk of its mother, that is, not be what.

[47:05] Yeah. That's interesting. Father Hardin says about why was it that Christ had such a hidden life for thirty years in Nazareth? Yeah. So you could get to a age when he could preach, because otherwise they'd kill him. Yeah. As soon as he came into the world, they tried to kill him. So that's why he hid for thirty years in Nazareth. It's unknown There's something to be said about it Yeah

[47:29] Is. Isn't there in some of the uh, the Marian orders, there's something about the hidden life of Christ? You know, they meditate on that. Because you think, you know, it's kind of, he came down to this earth, you know. And for thirty years. Yeah. He hid. Yeah. Yeah. Just a couple of words. Yeah. I've always wondered when was the flight into Egypt? Because obviously he was still around Jerusalem for the fortieth day for the presentation.

[47:57] Mm hmm I know St. Thomas takes that up there. Speculate about it. I like those paintings of the one on my wall there. You know, they're. The flight into Egypt. Yeah, they're pausing to get a little bit of food or something. Yeah, there's a there's a lovely story I just picked up. My sister had it for her kids, and I'm going to give it to somebody who just had a baby.

[48:21] And it's about the flight into Egypt, but it's it's called Dance in the Desert. and it's this family, and you can't cross the desert by yourself. small group you'd be killed by animals and bandits or something. Well, anyway, so they the first one of the nights when they're out in the desert. And then they hear these animals, and all the guys of the company are ready to protect them from the animals.

[48:45] But then the animals come, and they start to dance for the child. It's very, very beautiful. And he has he has different animals come. The first is the lion comes. Yeah. And then and then different ones come, and at the end there's there's a unicorn comes. Beautiful, he has the unicorn comes and bows down for the Christ child, touches his horn to the ground, and then he goes over.

[49:09] And after he bows to Christ, he goes over and he lays down next to the blessed mother, and lays his head in her lap. Lovely, lovely. And then there was the last one that comes. Oh, there's the what do you call him? The pelican comes, but he was wounded, and his blood was dripping out of the side. And the Christ child just looked at him very gravely.

[49:32] They looked at each other, and then walked off. And then the last one that comes is the dragon. The dragon comes, and the dragon is the only one that they said he came and he prostrated on the ground for the

[49:44] Christ child. That's great. Shakespeare in that same play, there Hamlet talks about the pelican, right? You know the blood. Oh is that in there Yeah, yeah. Thomas says that in his "Adoro te devote." Yeah. Where does the pelican symbolize? I remember coming across. He's supposed to feed his young with pecking his breast and giving blood. Yeah, that's how they feed. That's why it's always on tabernacles and vessels and so forth, because that's how we feed its young with its own blood.

[50:18] Okay, ad Quintum here. The Gentiles, the what? Is it The first fruits, which were called what? Fortunate, I guess. They offered them to the the gods, right? Huh? Or they also burnt them to do some magical things, huh?

[50:53] And therefore, it was commanded them that the fruit of the first three years was regarded as what unclean. In three years, almost all trees of the earth produce the fruit of them, right? Does that? agree with your experience When we got them they were about 3 years old? I have to ask my daughter now because they were planting these fruit trees down there on their property. Yeah.

[51:23] Which by either seeding them, right, or by inserting them, or what? Yeah. Rarely does it happen that the bones of what, osa, of the fruits of the tree, or the seeds hidden, Encased in a pod. Fruit stones or seeds. for these more slowly produce fruit. But the law regards that which is more frequent. And the apple of the fourth year,

[52:02] the first of the clean fruits, are offered to God, and from the fifth year, and then they're eaten. The figurative reason is because this is prefigured that after the three states of the law, of which one was from Abraham to David, the second, as far as the transmigration of Babylon to Babylon, and the third, as far as to Christ, when Christ would be offered to God, who is the fruit of the law. Or because the first of our works ought to be suspect to us on account of their imperfection.

[52:45] That's that's a good thing to tell people. It's just like I just somebody just wrote to me and said that her son, who's been away from the church a long time, he wrote, he called her, and he said that he started praying the rosary every day since yesterday. So I said, well, that's a good start. That's exactly the way to go. He had something on EWTN there who talks to people who convert and so on.

[53:16] This one guy he had Catholic people he roomed with and so on. This one guy was always giving instructions about how to say the rosary right. I found this guy got attracted to the the faith. He didn't know whether he should become a Catholic or not, you know. So he said, I think I'll I'll say the the rosary every day for a week and see what happens.

[53:37] And by the I was a third or fourth day of saying rosary that he said he had to become a Catholic, you know. It's kind of interesting. Yeah, that's what there was a friend of mine when she first became Catholic. I encouraged her to say the rosary, and, she just kind of kind of resisted. She would carry it around I made one for her. Yeah, yeah. She carried it around with her, but she never really got it.

[53:56] But as soon as she did. she says, oh, it's my favorite prayer. Yeah. And before this, she didn't have a lot of devotion to Blessed Mother, and she respected her, but it's after that, she really started.

[54:09] Yeah. Yeah, Again, the other day there, who who had his wife and and one of his daughters that were killed in a car crash, right? And he went to the monastery, you know, to see what I do with my life now, you know. And he was about about fifty-five at the time, or something like that. And so uh, he kept hearing the voice, Go to Mary, go to Mary."

[54:31] If he goes to this place where the Mary's up in the hill, there, you know, and then there's a there's a cross there, you know. he should be a priest, you know. Yeah, he said, "How could I be a priest at the age of fifty-five?" Well, he went and saw some people, and they sent him up to the one here. Yeah, he says that was the average age around fifty-five.

[54:52] So, so, so he's a priest now, you know. So, interesting. He's reading one of the Psalms, I guess, was from up the hill. That's where his married place was. You know, so it's everything kind of coming for him. Yeah. He's going to be a priest.

[55:22] Yeah, I knew. I knew a priest who was a convert too. And he had been married, and he had kids and grandkids. But his wife had died, and then he came to Catholic. Yeah. Yeah, one of the finest priests I've ever known was a lawyer in the Wall Street area. Yeah. A big Catholic family. His wife passed away. His kids were growing up. So he went to the seminary at the age of 60, I think.

[55:45] He was this powerhouse, constantly on the move, visiting patients in the hospital, going to the jail. Amazing priest, holy man.